When "vegans" eat their veges do they take into consideration what was used?!
When "vegans" eat their veges do they take into consideration what was used?
to fertilize those veges? Or does that get a free pass?
Most crops are fertilized with products from animal rendering plants. Fact. Most crops are pollinated by captive slave hives of bees. Fact. Both of those points are non-vegan. Fact.
So how can people who aren't excluding these veges call themselves "vegans"? They just do. It's a great cause and all but calling themselves "vegans" is just pretending.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/pollination...
http://www.api4animals.org/articles?p=37...
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bogtar---how do you think they do it?
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justme--I don't care what they eat. I care that they misrepresent themselves as "vegans".
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bogtar---how do you think they do it?1 day ago
justme--I don't care what they eat. I care that they misrepresent themselves as "vegans". It's better to live your life by moral principles and fail sometimes because the world hasn't caught up with you
than to have no moral principles at all.
Are you so insecure about your own nasty, meat-eating lifestyle that you criticize vegans for not having more choices?? It's really funny, but sort of sad, too. : ( Give them a break; they've got to eat something. I'm assuming most vegans do watch that carefully...they are vegans for crying out load...out of any people they watch their diets the most...in fact why do you care so much...did a vegan hurt you lately? good vegans wouldent eat anything like that Whoa just got a major sense of deja vu! Why do you care so much and why are you so bitter? Got a point there man. Well, actually, I go to local farmer's markets and purchase organically grown fruits and vegetables. That's the best that I know I can personally do.
It is impossible to be 100% vegan in modern society, unless you grow your own food, make your own clothes, build your own house, etc.
Next time, though, try not to be such a troll. It grows really tiresome. I agree, give vegans a break. It's the best they can do. I'd say it's still better than directly contributing to factory farms by eating meat and dairy.
Anyway, it's fairly avoidable. Buy as local as you can, and always organic! I sympathesize with what you're saying in some ways:I'm a vegan, and I wish crops weren't grown this way. But we can only do our best.
I'm hopeful that a time will come eventually when crops aren't ever grown in this way. By being vegan, and not supporting the meat industry that has animals killed and rendered, that will hopefully happen one day. If someone is serious about becoming vegan, they do their research to make sure no animal products were used. Some people might not have done their research well enough though; I know a girl who called herself vegetarian, yet ate beef, because she never heard of an animal called "beef". She thought it was some vegetable. Point is, it is possible to live a true vegan lifestyle, you just need to know ALL the facts, and how to plan to live that way. it's impossible to be perfect! Everything has good and bad points. Unfortunately I'm not in a position to set up my own completely animal free crop cultivating fields to feed myself. Ok maybe I'm not always a vegan in every sense of the word, but it's easier to say 'I'm vegan' than to say 'i need to have food, toilettries, household products, clothing and everything free from parts of animals, not tested on animals and nothing which may contain any of the following E101 E120 E153 E161 E236 E237 E238 E270 E322 E325 E326 E327 E422 E430 E431 E432 E433 E434 E435 E436 E470 E471 E472 E473 E474 E475 E476 E477 E478 E479 E481 E482 E483 E491 E492 E493 E494 E495 E542 E570 E572 E585 E627 E631 E635 E640 E901 E904 E920 E1518
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It's vegan enough for me! and whenever I find out about something I can do to help the vegan cause even more I do that too! I AM A VEGAN. Pointing out tiny little things that other people do that get in the way of their goals is not going to force a snap backflip decision.
im sure many vegans do take it into consideration.
personally i refuse to go any further out my way than i should.
most products dont actually need meat to be used in the process, people just do what they have done traditionally or choose the cheap or easy option.
Personally, I do everything in my life that i have control over.
Its all any single person can do.
Im not going to go out and demand that the farmer do it how i want, that would make me an asshole : )
im also not going to give up because of someone else.
its a personal decision and what other people do or say has no say in that decision.
pointing out that someone else is making it hard for someone to be what they want to be doesnt make the person wrong, it makes the other person wrong. it's interesting that you repost this, and ignore the level-headed answers. why would it 'raise your ire' to this degree if it weren't striking a chord with you? You need to do something about this!!!!!!!
Think of all of the products on the market that have "vegan" on the label. Think of all of the restaurants that say that they serve "vegan" food. Please, defend the word "vegan" as best you can from this corruption.
You need to file lawsuits against all of these companies and businesses. When you have put all of them out of business and have made yourself rich from all of their court-ordered losses, please, come back here and tell us all about it.
You may also want to get in contact with The Vegan Society, the creators of the word "vegan", and let them know that they have been spreading the wrong definition since 1944. Tell them that if they do not put "100% animal-free" into their definition of a "vegan" you will sue them just like you did to Morningstar and Gardenburger.
http://www.vegansociety.com/phpws/index....
Good Luck =)