VEGETARIANS AND ANIMAL LOVERS!! Does this make you angry??!
VEGETARIANS AND ANIMAL LOVERS!! Does this make you angry??
The Body Shop used to be one of the biggest corporations supporting animal rights and producing products that were NOT tested on animals. Today thier products continue to be cruelty free but little know to the consumer not so long ago The Body Shop was bought out by one of the worlds biggest cosmetics companies and one of the WORST animal cruelty and animal testing offenders. Customers of The Body Shop were never publicly informed of this take over and while The Body Shop continues to make cruelty free cosmetics ALL of their profits go to the company that DOES test on animals! So in reality if you buy there you are supporting animal testing even if you don't know it. Doesn't this make you mad?? Shouldn't The Body Shop be taken off the animal friendly lists and registries?? And why weren't the public and customers told about the take over?? Additional Details
1 day ago
In answer to Natastrophe- The question was doesn't this make you angry? I didn't want, nor did I ask for, a lecture on things I already know! What my question was implying was, The Body Shop should in some way have told thier customers what they had done, not omg anyone who has ever squashed a spider is the devil! Not that I have to justify myslef to you but I DO buy organic vegetables, I don't buy very much processed food but when I do it is from a company that doesn't affiliate with any companies that use animals in any way, and doesn't use ANY animal product at all, I don't take pain medication unless my Dr instructs me and I will not enter into the what about bugs argument, because that is the last ditch attempt for meat eaters when they feel guilty. Do you research honey and then we'll talk!
Answers: 1 day ago
In answer to Natastrophe- The question was doesn't this make you angry? I didn't want, nor did I ask for, a lecture on things I already know! What my question was implying was, The Body Shop should in some way have told thier customers what they had done, not omg anyone who has ever squashed a spider is the devil! Not that I have to justify myslef to you but I DO buy organic vegetables, I don't buy very much processed food but when I do it is from a company that doesn't affiliate with any companies that use animals in any way, and doesn't use ANY animal product at all, I don't take pain medication unless my Dr instructs me and I will not enter into the what about bugs argument, because that is the last ditch attempt for meat eaters when they feel guilty. Do you research honey and then we'll talk! Yes, it did make me angry to learn that they were no longer accredited in the Choose Cruelty Free List (see here):
http://www.choosecrueltyfree.org.au/list...
I contacted the big cosmetics company that took them over and asked what their story was and if were they misleading customers. They replied that The Body Shop products are still not tested on animals... but still did not answer my questions about whether their other products are tested on animals or if the ingredients that they bought which were also used for making Body Shop stuff were tested on animals before they made a finished product out of them.
So technically, they can say "not tested on animals" but they only mean the finished product is not tested on animals... and this is why they are not on the List anymore.
Very misleading and very very annoying. I just can't believe Anita Roddick let it happen (rest her soul). Her good name and the faith of her loyal customers are being so cynically exploited. Da** that's terrible!
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It should so be taken off the animal friendly list! I barely use cosmetics anyway. A materialistic product that does no good except waste your money. Are you serious??! THATS messed up....hopefully theyll get sued or something... Oh well, I dont like Lab Rats anyway with them beaty red eyes and that hairless tail. I say test away and lets have done with them! That's awful....and sneaky of them to not make the public aware. I guess everything comes down to the almighty dollar, even for a seemingly progressive company like The Body Shop. I am willing to bet that many of the vegetarian food brand you buy are owned by companies that also sell meat based products.
What the purchase proves is that corporate America is waking up to the concept that their is a demand for cruelty free items and a profit to be made from satisfying that market. Actually it would be a good thing if the that division becomes their most profitable, b/c then the company will put more resources into expanding cruelty free lines and reducing the non-cruetly free lines.
It is not really a bad thing. omg that horrible i`m suing them hummmmppppphhhhhhhhhhh Yes im angry thats for the tip I will no longer use the Body Shop Products, as I boycott everything L'oreal owns. I'll stick with Estee Lauder and affiliated products, thanks. You know, the problem is that fundamentalist vegetarians and vegans don't think through all of their own actions before they speak out loud, and they're too willing to point the finger at people before thoroughly assessing their own lifestyles.
To reinforce me's point, it's most certain that you buy food products at your supermarket that are made by brands who also produce products containing meat. If you eat bread, have you ever stopped to think about how many animals are harmed and/or killed during wheat harvesting? And what about your paracetamol/asprin - do you not realise that all pharmaceutical companies test on animals? What about your fruit and veg - if you don't buy organic, it's probably been sprayed with pesticides that have killed a number of insects or made small animals sick.
Where do you draw the line on what types of beings are worth your defense? Is it okay to kill/harm bugs but not mice? And why?
As far as I can see, no vegetarian or vegan has a leg to stand on with their self righteousness banter because in the end, there is most certainly a number of products they purchase, unknowingly, that will somehow contribute to the harm of animals.
L'Oreal buying The Body Shop doesn't mean that The Body Shop customers are in any way supporting animal testing. In fact, they are still supporting being AGAINST animal testing. It's the same with clothing brands. Nike bought Converse, but Converse (who I've worked for, in the production monitoring area), most certainly do not use sweat shops.
That's the world of business - like it or lump it.... and if you're going to lump it, have a good hard look at everything you purchase before you point the finger.
*Edit in reply to ~?~CaTo~?~
Firstly, please don't call me honey. It's really quite rude and to be frank, I'm not trying to offend anyone. I really thought I was just bringing up some valid points that are all related to the issue of animal testing & cruelty.
Secondly, it might interest you to know that I'm actually a vegetarian myself. My post is not about some meat-eating-internet-troll who's trying to stomp on your values. I promise.
This wasn't meant to be a personal attack aimed at you and I don't expect you to justify your lifestyle to me. I was more raising some rhetorical questions in hope of provoking some discussion/debate. I don't think that deserved a thumbs down, did it?
Thirdly, in answer to your question, yes it does irritate me - but at the same time, and I hope you can understand this, I prefer to actually discuss the issue (which yes, may involve some tangents, but all still related) rather than just give an "agree" or "disagree" answer.
While L'Oreal claim not to test on animals, I acknowledge that they sneakily use animal tested ingredients in their products. But on this note - how many other products that we don't know about are advertising being animal friendly and are using this nasty little trick? There aren't any regulations for it and while I agree it's pretty crappy, it's a fact.
I think more than anything, the outrage is about people feeling that The Body Shop are "sell outs". I really don't know at this stage whether I will be boycotting or not because the truth is that these products will continue to not be tested on animals.
I suppose the question is about your indirect actions, and are as important (or more?) as your direct actions... because the direct action for supporting that brand now, would be to continue supporting cruelty free products. However the indirect action would be that a portion of those profits goes to a bigger company that isn't cruelty free.
And just as a final point, in my defense, I think it's fair to question anyone's right to be angry about it. I'm in no way religious, but the phrase "let he who has not sinned cast the first stone" etc. comes to mind. This is not a question that belongs in the v&v forum. Go lock yourself in a closet and cry to yourself, nobody cares.