Trolls on this section?!
Trolls on this section?
Why do you think there are so many trolls on the Vegetarian and Vegan section?? I mean, it almost appears as if there's alot of hatred toward vegetarians.. Why? Why on earth would someone dislike someone for what they EAT, for pity sake?? Is it because of all the miltant vegans who go too far in trying to berate people into being vegan? Is that why Meat-eaters think all vegetarians are wackos?? I'm really confused here!! It really seems like there's alot of hatred toward vegetarians (at least on this forum).. I just can't imagine why..unless it's the wacko veggies/vegans who think they're better than other people because of how they eat.. or try to berate/force/nag others into beoing vegan/veg..
Or is it just a few morons with way too much free time on their hands? even so.. why pick on teh vegetarians? Why the hatred?
Thoughts???.. It's really annoying me..
I'm a vegetarian, eat no meat, fish, seafood, but I do still eat some dairy or eggs.. But I believe it's wrong to force veiws Additional Details
2 days ago
I have no problem with most vegans, btw.. all my closest friends are vegans, and I believe veganism is the best diet (I just haven't been able to give up some of my favorite dairy products YET)... Anyway, but I DO have a problem with the overly preachy vegans with a superiority complex, not because they've personally hounded me for my diet, but because they make vegetarians look bad. The loudmouths are the ones that get heard, so the meat-eaters think all vegetarians have those kinds of opinions....
Very sad..
2 days ago
Ashley, just know that I consider you the worst troll of all..
Answers: 2 days ago
I have no problem with most vegans, btw.. all my closest friends are vegans, and I believe veganism is the best diet (I just haven't been able to give up some of my favorite dairy products YET)... Anyway, but I DO have a problem with the overly preachy vegans with a superiority complex, not because they've personally hounded me for my diet, but because they make vegetarians look bad. The loudmouths are the ones that get heard, so the meat-eaters think all vegetarians have those kinds of opinions....
Very sad..2 days ago
Ashley, just know that I consider you the worst troll of all.. misinformation, ignorance, stereotypes...
vegetarians and vegans often get stereotyped as:
1. extremists
2. hippies (who have bad BO and bad smelling farts)
3. pale and sickly
i am proud to say that i am none of those mentioned above. i don't rally at my nearest kfc... i smell just fine... i am nowhere near pale and sickly (in fact, i've felt better than i've felt my whole life!).
then there are those vegetarians and/or vegans who do give the rest of us a bad reputation... the kind that goes and shoves pamphlets in people's faces when they choose to eat a meat dish. i mean, if you want people to join our cause, preaching is NOT the way to go about it...
basically, it's ignorance. it's easy to target a group of people who have a lifestyle that is different from the "norm". it's sad to think that most who post rude things are adults... it's like going through elementary school with bullies all over again.
ok, enough babbling... :) i have noticed that vegans are a little snooty for some reason. i accidentally put a question on the vegans thing and they jumped all over me. if you are nice, and you sound nice, dont pay any attention to those mean meateaters. they have the problem, not you I think a fair comparsion could be made between the treatment of muslims, who are judged by the action of al quadi, and the treatment of vegans who are judged by the actions of PETA. I think some people just don't get it and that is threatening to them so they react by lashing out at it. I don't experience any of this in "real life," only here. Maybe it's because I don't get in people's faces about it, maybe it's because I live in a city that embraces diversity and hang out with cool people.
I try to ignore it as much as I can here; it's not really that important or powerful. Maybe it's even a good sign that some people are so hostile towards us. Gandhi said something like, "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, and then you win." If it's to the point where the meat eaters are "fighting us" it's going to bring a lot of information out into the open and a few myths (you NEED meat for protein!) might get blasted once and for all. That would be a win in my books. I think there was a couple of trolls originally on this site and somehow the word has spread that this is a place to pick on people mercilessly. Obviously, they are people without much a of a life. I am not sure why. I also think it is silly to pick on someone for their dietary choices. Its a desease all right. There are other website ( "distraction" being one of them) where these poeple discuss thier plans.
There really have nothing constructive to do with thier time.
remember many of them pose as a vegan on here to great bad feeling amongst meat-eaters so they can then log back in with a different account to denounce thier first post
Shame, they are distroying something that potentially could be good just for a few minutes entertainment.
This would be like a bunch of thugs vandalising a city park
Or you could say they are destroying the thing that feeds them.
That would be like a parasite.
Take your pick, "split personality", "thug" or "parasite".
One of the main recent ones runs a meat-wholesaler. Who would have thought such childish behaviour could come from an adult "..unless it's the wacko veggies/vegans who think they're better than other people because of how they eat.. or try to berate/force/nag others into beoing vegan/veg.."---
You accurately answered your own question. I have a lot of friends too that are vegetarian and vegan and they are NOTHING like the fanatics on this V&V forum.
In fact at lunch we read some of the comments, screwed up thinking and "facts" that the fanatics post an laugh hysterically.
Where do they come up with this crap? Actually, the best part of the V&V forum, IMO, are the trolls because they put things in perspective. Silliness for silly, sanctimonious people. Meanwhile they will continue to "have fun" with these fools.
BTW the silly sod above me is one of those fools, He sells hay to people who fatten cattle to be slaughtered and he's "Mr. Righteous" yet judges others for "cruelty" to animals. He's also one of the faves of the vegetarians and vegans at work. One of them says re: his boasting about his being a "free range farmer" says "free range" in his county was a known among the really good farmers as meaning a "lazy farmer"....LOL.
There are more than a few who have his number though. But he is pretty funny.
You have and will have more of the offenders you speak about writing comments. There are too many people who aren't vegetarian/vegan posting in this forum. They generally don't have any useful questions or answers pertaining to food and drink. I've learned to just ignore them and focus on the questions that are better suited here.
I guess some meat eaters have had bad experiences with vegans and vegetarians, but they shouldn't take out their frustrations here because not all of us are trying to force others to eat the way we do. Yes, I for one am sick of immoral meat eaters trolling this section. There should be a law inacted about this type of thing. I'm thinking that I just might be considered a "troll" here. Would that be right? Let's just say I have nothing against people for what they eat. Let's also say I abhor condescension and I abhor hypocrisy.
This section is heavy on condescension. The condescension is directed by vegers upon those who disagree with them. I'm not saying it's everyone. But it is more than other sections. This section is not FOR vegers, it's for the discussion of V & V issues. For or against is irrelevant. There are some that come here just to be inflammatory. It's your job to ignore them. If you aren't answering their question, you should NOT be posting anything at all. That's the TOS you agreed to.
So, until the misplaced condescension stops, my line of questioning and my focal point of answering will be to highlight the hypocrisy of those who condescend needlessly while honoring the TOS I agreed to. They are just as bad as vegetarians and vegans who scream in the faces of "meat eaters" and who force their views on them. Don't tell them that eating meat is wrong. (thank you Ashley for proving my point!)Don't picket outside a butcher shop holding up signs and screaming "DON'T EAT MEAT". Worry about the tofo on your plate and let me eat my big juicy steak. RARE! Give me a whole cow. I'll carve what I want and ride the rest home!
Don't dislike me for what I EAT, for pity sake. Yes, V&V is quite polarized.
Luckily, we have Ashley the Juiceatarian to help protect us "from the haters!" LOL
. trolls r smelly + dumb. im a vegetarian(that took me like10 mins
2 type) they r also fat and ugly It's a simpleton's first rule of debate: when you can't counter your opponent's logic and fact, demonize him.