Do you think the French are barbaric?!
Do you think the French are barbaric?
Whereas a lot of countries are turning more and more towards vegetarianism, France is still way behind. There are less than 2% vegetarians in France, and they are often not accepted at all.
France still has bullfighting. France has foie gras. All these things would actually be banned by the french laws, becomes they are so cruel to animals, but they are protects from the other laws as being part of the french culture.
So I was wondering how you see France? Has it got a bad image abroad because of all this?
By the way, I'm french and live in Paris. So I know what I'm saying, I'm not laching out at the french ;-) Additional Details
2 days ago
Seriously, there is nothing civilized about a typically french meal. Foie gras is one of the most barbaric things in the world: geese and ducks are force-fed twice a day. A tube is showed down their throats and burning hot cereals are forced then into their bodies, burning their throats. A lot of these birds die, their liver exploses. It really is very, very cruel. Most french people recognize this, but say it's too nice to stop eating to.
I'm not saying all french people are like this. Luckly, some aren't. I'm just talking about the typical french traditions and meals. It's all about meat.
2 days ago
nonjourno:
I never said all french people were like that. As I said, I'm french myself, and I certainly don't think I'm barbaric ;-) I'm talking about french traditions.
2 days ago
danimonio:
a) France has never been a spanish colony, but it does have bullfighting. I live here, I do know what I'm talking about. Either that or the demos in front of the arenas were a BIG mistake.
b)Who said vegans were all civilized? I'm just saying foie gras and bullfighting isn't.
2 days ago
Knome Lover:
Yes some french do eat horse me. Personally I think it's horrible, but no more so than any other kind of meat.
Thanks for your message, I agree, keeping things going because they are part of a tradition is just stupid. I wonder of people who enjoy bullfighting have ever heard of evolution?
2 days ago
Michael H:
Thanks, I agree. I'm french, but I can't believe that kind of thing still goes on in my country. I feel quite ashamed.
2 days ago
stopmelting2000:
I agree about the death penalty, France is ahead with that. Well actually I would say it's the US that's behind with it. But I don't think you can say the french are close to their food. Not many people are, today.
1 day ago
@Freke
Force-feeding is the only way to produce foie gras. It's a fact. The foie gras industry (at least in France) has never denied that. They just think it's so tasty it's worth putting the animals through it. That, to me, is barbaric.
Answers: 2 days ago
Seriously, there is nothing civilized about a typically french meal. Foie gras is one of the most barbaric things in the world: geese and ducks are force-fed twice a day. A tube is showed down their throats and burning hot cereals are forced then into their bodies, burning their throats. A lot of these birds die, their liver exploses. It really is very, very cruel. Most french people recognize this, but say it's too nice to stop eating to.
I'm not saying all french people are like this. Luckly, some aren't. I'm just talking about the typical french traditions and meals. It's all about meat.2 days ago
nonjourno:
I never said all french people were like that. As I said, I'm french myself, and I certainly don't think I'm barbaric ;-) I'm talking about french traditions.2 days ago
danimonio:
a) France has never been a spanish colony, but it does have bullfighting. I live here, I do know what I'm talking about. Either that or the demos in front of the arenas were a BIG mistake.
b)Who said vegans were all civilized? I'm just saying foie gras and bullfighting isn't.2 days ago
Knome Lover:
Yes some french do eat horse me. Personally I think it's horrible, but no more so than any other kind of meat.
Thanks for your message, I agree, keeping things going because they are part of a tradition is just stupid. I wonder of people who enjoy bullfighting have ever heard of evolution?2 days ago
Michael H:
Thanks, I agree. I'm french, but I can't believe that kind of thing still goes on in my country. I feel quite ashamed.2 days ago
stopmelting2000:
I agree about the death penalty, France is ahead with that. Well actually I would say it's the US that's behind with it. But I don't think you can say the french are close to their food. Not many people are, today.1 day ago
@Freke
Force-feeding is the only way to produce foie gras. It's a fact. The foie gras industry (at least in France) has never denied that. They just think it's so tasty it's worth putting the animals through it. That, to me, is barbaric. Sorry, but those that support that barbaric industry really do come across as arogant and selfish.
French people are generally very kind adn thoughtful people, there is good and bad, like most counties
But supporting this industry and protecting it by law is barbaric.
There is no need for it when we now know so much of what the animal goes through its unforgivable to continue shoving metal pipes down duck and geese throats just to give them liver desease.
http://www.stopforcefeeding.com/page.php...
http://www.nofoiegras.org/
http://www.gourmetcruelty.com/photos.php...
http://www.stopgavage.com/en/index.php...
Of course not all Fois Gras is produced in France, the USA is the largest producer.
Nothing personal.
EDIT: michaelus_sin....you cannot seriously be comparing lighting fireworks to Fois Gras production ? Celebrating killing a catholic may be wrong, but its not BARBARIC Always thought they tended more towards being "sissy" than "barbaric".
Knew that making pate de foie gras was rather brutal, but didn't know there was bullfighting in France. And I didn't know the French ate that much meat...always thought they were of a "bread and cheese" people. No, but my barber is French It would depend on your frame of reference....America has Braunsweiger ( liver), France has foie gras. Americans eat more beef than any other country in the world. Eating meat is healthy. There are certain amino acids in meat that you cannot get with a purely vegan diet.
By standards of diet the French are among the most civilized people in the world. Here we go again. Sweping generalisations. Are all Americans stupid? Are all Australians backward? Do all Japanese do karate and eat sushi? Think about this word please .... IMPERIALISM. bull fighting is only done in select spanish colonized countries and spain of course. being vegan doesn't mean being civilized. the warrior kings of india during the 9th century were vegans and yet they've slaughtered their enemies wholesale. men, women and children, no one was spared. even the fields were salted so nobody else will be able to use them.
edit: my bad. you guys do have bull fighting. que barbaridad! Is it correct French eat horse as well? A plant in Illinois was just shut down for horse slaughtering for human consumption. I believe they said most goes to France.
I guess I have never thought of the French people as barbaric. But from what you are saying maybe I should change that. Bullfighting is a horrible thing and cannot believe it has not been banned worldwide. I'm getting tired of this whole "it's our culture" thing. I even heard people use that excuse for Michael Vick. Things change and people need to deal with it. i don't think the French are barbaric at all... imorality and unethical practice are commited by all nations. For example, we in Britian will celebrate the torture and brutal execution of an oppressed catholic on the 5th of november. We'll burn his effigy on great fires, binge on toffe apples and baked potatoes while the skies are alite in celebration.... Weird no? You did right to talk about France and not about every french. I don't think France is really much more barbaric than other countries. For exemple the U.K. has the biggest animal test laboratories in europe and that's 500 innocent animaux torture to death while they could use ethical and more efficient solutions.
I think most of countries are barbaric. It doesn't every people in thesre countries are, but the countries are involved in barbaric thinks. Most of people are not barbaric but ignorant and don't reflect. It's even true here, some people say meat is healthy, it's not and it has been proven by many studies. Every amino acid present in meat can be found easily in vegetables.
If people of all countries would think just a little about how barbaric what they do is, the would stop and they would never have the courage to it by themselves but as long as they can close their eyes they do. Not in the least.
"Do you think the French are barbaric?"
Understand by your name calling you invite meat eaters to attack you so don't complain when they do. This question is a perfect example of why vegers get messed with here. "becomes" --> "because" if you want to speak of barbarism, i live in a 1st world country that still executes murderers. the french are above the u.s. in that regard. also, the french tend to not eat such heavily processed food. they live closer to their food sources. there are probably less than 2% veggies in southeast asian cultures. I do, but my reasoning has nothing to do with how they treat animals. No, I think french men are HWAT. :-) Nope. Foie Gras is an amazing thing, even if I don't like it much. French cuisine is the ephiany of cuisine all over the world. I do not think it creates a bad image at all. I a lot of people come to France on Culinary Vacations for this reason. With all of theregions of France creating different dishes there are few places that rival it.
Less then 2% of vegetarians means that the diet is not one that is embraced in France. I think the french are proud of their culinary heritage and the wonderful dishes they give the world. I really do not see the bother in it. I respect your decision to be veggie, but to call the otehr 98% barbaric is bit contrite. Here in the US foie gras is not produced by force feeding, and I doubt it is there as well. That's an image that PETA and other animal activists have given to the public. I'm not saying that the animals are treated well, but I would say it's not as barbaric as you say.
And no, I don't think the French are barbaric. I never thought I would hear from a self-flagellating Frenchman.
I don't necessarily think the French are barbaric and certainly not because of diet. The French are the French --- a country with a widespread Anti-Social Personality Disorder.