What is healthier : to be vegan or vegetarian? (Lets put animal rights aside for a moment)?!


Question: A vegan diet can be just a nutritious as a vegetarian diet. Milk is really not a health necessity and actually probably contributes to arthritis and osteoporosis instead of preventing it. Our protein requirements are also greatly exaggerated in modern western culture thereby eggs are not a necessity either.

I might consider a pescetarian diet healthier than a vegan diet however, only it is important to be care full about the way the fish is produced, wild caught fish is usually best, and if you live in the states you can use the Monterrey aquarium guide to know what is safe in your region http://www.mbayaq.org/cr/seafoodwatch.as...

The danger with vegetarian and vegan diets is being lazy to eat and prepare your food from fresh food and eating processed food lacking in nutritional value.


Answers: A vegan diet can be just a nutritious as a vegetarian diet. Milk is really not a health necessity and actually probably contributes to arthritis and osteoporosis instead of preventing it. Our protein requirements are also greatly exaggerated in modern western culture thereby eggs are not a necessity either.

I might consider a pescetarian diet healthier than a vegan diet however, only it is important to be care full about the way the fish is produced, wild caught fish is usually best, and if you live in the states you can use the Monterrey aquarium guide to know what is safe in your region http://www.mbayaq.org/cr/seafoodwatch.as...

The danger with vegetarian and vegan diets is being lazy to eat and prepare your food from fresh food and eating processed food lacking in nutritional value.

Animal rights aside, definitely a vegetarian. Vegans won't eat anything that even comes close to access of an animal, like eggs and milk.
If you think about it, those things don't come from harming an animal, but still because it comes from the animal they refuse to eat it.
I think it's safer to be a vegetarian because although they avoid meat, they have a lot of options to get their protein in other areas of the food pyramid— whereas vegans have a lot less to go for.

^^ Wow. This person needs to check their facts. If she had, there is no way she would say that chickens exploited for their eggs and cows used for milk aren't "harmed".


Vegans are far less likely to be obese, and The China Study indicates that eating dairy is directly attributable to increased cancer rates.

http://www.europeanvegetarian.org/evu/en...

Nutritionally speaking, most rational people will agree that getting a balanced healthy diet as a strict vegan is quite a challenge. There are certain nutrients (especially proteins, but also some vitamins and minerals typically found in protein sources) that are hard to get naturally from a vegan diet.

Lacto ovo vegetarians have more variety and choices available to them. I would also think they could stay on this diet for less money, as strict vegans often only eat organic fruits and vegetables and would be more likely to choose fresh foods over processed foods. Add to it the stress of trying to keep up with choices meeting their strict requirements, which I'm thinking might be a source of unhealthy stress for the vegan.

Definitely a vegetarian. You need protein and women especially need milk (calcium) to prevent brittle bones. By the way does a lion think of the gazelle's rights when he's hunting his prey. No. You take care of your health first - animal rights second.

Healthwise, strict vegetarian (vegan is a lifestyle that implies moral concern for animals, not just a diet) still wins.

Dairy is breast milk for baby cows. It is meant to make a small newborn grow to an enormous size in a short amount of time. If you would not drink human breast milk now, you shouldn't drink a cow's.
If you look up phosphorous, dairy, and calcium, you'll find all sorts of research regarding the body leaching minerals from bones (making them weaker) in order to process and digest dairy.

Eggs are essentially the same thing as a woman's egg that is released during her period. If you wouldn't eat those, I'd suggest you not eat chicken eggs. You also definitely don't need the cholesterol.

Vegans vs Vegetarians is purely subjective, and nobody should critisize anyone for making the food choices they do. Education is important, as it gives the receiver information to make their own choice. I would like to correct the first poster that said that vegans won't touch anything from animals, and their aversion to milk and eggs or whatever is because it is simply animal, and that's a no-no. From a purely personal standpoint, I know what factory farm chickens go through, so I only consume organic eggs from free-range hens that are allowed to nest naturally. I don't drink milk partly because I believe it produces too much mucus, and I also know what goes on with factory-farmed milk. I won't go into that here, as it's fully documented on peta. I prefer not to consume the hormones and antibiotics that these animals are fed to keep them producing milk. My personal guidelines are not to buy from sources that use these methods, as well as not to buy from companies that test on animals. If you are choosing a vegan lifestyle to observe a cruelty-free philosophy, great. It also happens to be a healthy lifestyle. I lost 10 pounds the first month I became vegan, my blood pressure has dipped 50 points, and I'm sure my cholesterol has taken a nose-dive. Another interesting side-effect I didn't expect is that I am satisfied with less. These lifestyle choices are personal. Whatever your reasons are, I commend you for asking for other's experiences.

Assuming that both diets are well planned to include all the nutrients humans need, probably vegan as it will probably be naturally lower in saturated fats.

I would have to say plain vegetarian because usually they have a little bit more food in their diet and some more vitamins in their foods sometimes. But even though the vegetarian is most likely to be a little healthier it also depends on what region you are in and your background so it depends on what you eat and how much of it you eat. But as long as you eat healthy foods and get the right amount of fat, and nutrients it can be kind of healthy either way.

It depends on how you diet. If you're experienced and you know how to diet perfectly then vegan is the better way to go. But if you're just starting off and you don't understand nutrition enough, then lacto-vegetarian is a better way to go.

I think the healthiest diet would be a vegan diet + fish...which wouldn't be a vegan diet.

goldenchild- you're not clever.

Neither really. A well-balanced, moderate diet can't be beat. You don't have to have supplements, no "hidden" deficiences, no "loads" of plant life to make up for the lack of meat, etc. It is healthier from a social aspect as well . . . people won't avoid you, you can actually go to restaurants without creating a scene, you have better mental health because you are getting the B-12 you need, and you aren't prone to be obsessive-compulsive about diet.

Google "Flexitarian Diets" and you will see what I mean.

I posted this answer in the other one, but here goes:

As long as you are eating a properly healthful and varied diet, a vegan diet can be just as healthy if not healthier than a vegetarian diet. Sure, it's slightly more of a challenge to get B12 (but not if you know what you're doing), but you get to miss out on all of the saturated fat and cholesterol in dairy and eggs. Many studies have shown that, despite ads to the contrary, milk is actually bad for calcium, as it inhibits calcium absorption.

Even with that, I simply can't "put animal rights aside". Even if veganism were as unhealthy as everyone on here claims, I would still follow that lifestyle, because I could still survive, while the animals couldn't.

Healthwise, definitely vegan. A vegan's own body would supply all its needs, vitamin-wise.

It's just too difficult these days, especially for those of us who grew up on pizza and macaroni-and-cheese. So...of the two, even though vegan has got to be a hundred times healthier, I wouldn't be able to stick with it very long, so I just forego meat instead.

Technically, vegan. But most people aren't going to have the drive and know-how to eat a balanced vegan diet, so vegetarian is probably safer and healthier for most people.

Neither. If you're vegan, you have to be a little more careful that you get all of your proteins (like taking vitamins), but both of the diets are healthy choices.

vegan is healthier as dairy, especially eggs, is high if cholesterol, putting you at greater risk of heart attacks etc. i was told by the head of diatetics at my local hospital that providing a vegan eats a variety of foods (fresh foods that is) and not just processed meat substitutes there should be no reason for them to EVER have to take vitamins. he also told me (just in case anyone is interested) that ribena is high in vitamin b12. his only concern about veganism was the use of ready meals / processed substitues etc exclusively, however he says that in todays society, with people as lazy as they are thata there is the same problem with all diets, omnivore, veggie, everything.

BACON!

I believe in animal's rights to be tasty, die painless deaths, and give to me their delicious...succulent flesh.





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