Is it common to be hired in a bar as a bartender just for tips at first?!
Is it common to be hired in a bar as a bartender just for tips at first?
How can you get a bar manager to hire you just for tips at first while training you so you don't commit to it if it is not your cup of tea, and so they can see if you are an asset to the place or not ? What could you say to them durring the interview ?
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It is probably unlawful -- the minimum wage rules apply.
Not in Canada
It's illegal. They still have to pay you at least minimum wage--there is no way to get around that law. They can hire you and say "you make whatever you get in tips" as long as they guarantee that if you get less tips than minimum wage they will pay you the difference.
You can't. It's against federal law. If he doesn't it and gets caught he's fried. So I guess you have to find one that's interested in taking you on with the chance of the DOL (Department of Labor) coming down on him.
Tips are soooooooooooo much better paying than a regular check. You got all these drunk people who can't see what they are handing out. Yeah, you may just get a dollar bill...but think if the drunk person means to give you just $1 but instead sees the number 1 on $100 dollar bill. It's happened to me alot.
There's nothing wrong with trying the job out and getting actual pay for it. Even if it's not the thing for you, you can always quit. Why not get fairly paid while testing the waters, though?
Actually it just depends on what the law in the state that you work in. Where i live people have to be payed a base pay( in MA) and cannot work solely on tips.
Don't sell yourself short. It is rough enough with the small small salery they offer + tips, but to offer to work for tips only would NOT be a smart thing to do.You will not make anything for the work you put in.
is that COMMON yes but in different context, in usa its illegal , min wage law applies... the employer would be cheating the govt, cheating you and cheating society, not to mention if you were injured in bar lol he will say I never herd of them, there goes hostpital bills huh~ usually in starting jobs well where I live? $10 hr plus tips is considered an entry level bartending job...( some states have min wage ants / laws that vary*
They legally can't do it . If you are working in a bar you are an employee and as such the bar owner must pay you a wage that is commensurate with your legal classification as an employee. In English he can legally pay you less than minimum wage if the combination of wages and tips is equal to or greater than the Federal minimum wage standard ,if not he must make up the difference.
In addition since you are working in a bar there are some very serious liability issues that go along w/ alcohol service in regards to serving intoxicated individuals and under -age individuals. A bar owner would not want to risk losing his business for a non-employee and a DA wouldn't buy the excuse of "He doesn't work for me, He just a volunteer" The DA and other alcohol regulating body's would still prosecute you and the owner
It may be illegal but most bar's don't declare all of their employees...it's just a fact. I was a bartender for 6 years and never got a pay check. I would just ask if that is an option. If the freak out and say no that's illegal, just play dumb and say you didn't know. No harm done.
i got my start learning bartending this way. it is illlegal, however i was an employee of the place first. why not ask the bar owner or manager if you can waitress first to get a feel for the place kind of like work experience and see how that goes. maybe there is a loophole that the boss can write off as volunteering or something to try you out.
This is illegal in the US.
Any bar manager worth their salt would never hire you if you went into an interview and said something like this. It's illegal in CA and NV to not have someone on payroll who is working behind the bar (or anywhere else in the establishment). You might be able to get away with this at a mom and pop place, but it's questionable at best. Another thing - ordinarily trainees don't make tips. They make minimum wage and trail an established employee until a manager feels they are ready to go.