Best Belgian beer, preferably darker and with live yeast?!

Question: I tried Chimay blue recently and loved it so im going to try to homebrew a clone since its like $10 a bottle, i heard you could make a starter from it since they bottle with same yeast as the primary but i didnt have any success (maybe i just got a bad/old bottle) so i was thinking of trying something else... what are some other good belgian beers (i prefer dubbels/strong darks but will try lighter stuff) and even better if youre a home brewer and know if it contains the live primary yeast strain

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Answers: I tried Chimay blue recently and loved it so im going to try to homebrew a clone since its like $10 a bottle, i heard you could make a starter from it since they bottle with same yeast as the primary but i didnt have any success (maybe i just got a bad/old bottle) so i was thinking of trying something else... what are some other good belgian beers (i prefer dubbels/strong darks but will try lighter stuff) and even better if youre a home brewer and know if it contains the live primary yeast strain

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How much you willing to spend? Westvleteren 12 is the best, most difficult to get and most expensive. Rochefort 10 second. Chimay Red and St. Bernardis 12 a close third.

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Chimay is good. Better yet, but impossible to find:
Westvleteren Blonde (green cap), 5.8% ABV, introduced on 10 June, 1999.
Westvleteren 8 (blue cap) (formerly Extra), 8% ABV.
Westvleteren 12 (yellow cap) (formerly Abt), a 10.2% ABV, introduced in 1940.

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